Gril McCool
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Posted - 2008.04.04 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Barbelo Valentinian
Originally by: Gril McCool for people who like to qote wikipedia.didnt you read the eve ol section of wiki ?
Hmm, well as a Wiki quoter, if you're directing that comment at me, please note the beginning of my previous post where I talk about the bits I bolded in the quote. Griefing is not simply some action that is morally wrong or dubious in-game, like theft or piracy - such actions are legitimate aspects of some games, and especially of EVE.
As I said, the subtle but important distinction is between actions directed at annoying the player as a player (i.e. as a person sitting behind a keyboard) and actions directed in the spirit of the game (whether morally good or bad) at the character the player is roleplaying.
In either case, one loses one's stuff; but in the one case, that loss is felt (and is meant to be felt) as a personal annoyance to the player him or herself, whereas in legitimate play, that loss is meant to be felt as a personal annoyance to the pod pilot the player is roleplaying - and the player who is playing the pod pilot who has lost their stuff is meant to suck it up, learn from the experience, and get deeper into the game, care more about it, etc., etc. But griefing is a problem because it causes people to care less about the game.
Videogames have to balance gameplay with immersion. If there's no immersion, there's no sense of being in an alternative space, no romance (you might as well just play a game of cards, or a "pure" shooter or something like that). If there's no gameplay there's no achievement, no building of skill, no risk or reward, and again, nothing matters (you might as well just wander around in a nice graphic universe). Griefing breaks immersion: it brings home to the player that after all, they are just playing a game, and they've just wasted x hours of their life on assets that, in reality, mean nothing. For those assets to mean something, the person has to be immersed in the role of a character to whom they mean something in the game. (Unless they're a griefer )
so you read the wiki which says eve is controversial and read the player guide which says eve is not for evertyone and decided to try for yourself.now you are finding everything you read to be true you want to wail like a baby crying for mama and stamp your feet telling people "how this game should be".
you are just like political correct crowd who wants gta or such banned or think video games make people violent.you can not see the difference in eve just like other can not see the difference of a gta game.
wow would be too "hardcore" for you baby cakes.buy a wii to have more fun.
you knew what you were getting and now pay 15 euro to cry
i knew what i was getting and pay 15 euro to blow up ships.
i win.
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